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    === If you mock, don’t believe, or hate on: ===
    === If you mock, don’t believe, or hate on: ===
    * ''Any'' LGBTQ+ sexualities, including [[a-spec]] identities, or instead believe in harmful stereotypes (ex: all gay men are feminine, trans women are just cis men trying to attack women, nonbinary individuals are all androgynous, etc.)
    * ''Any'' LGBTQ+ sexualities, including [[a-spec]] identities, or instead believe in harmful stereotypes (ex: all gay men are feminine, trans women are just cis men trying to attack women, nonbinary individuals are all androgynous, etc.)
    * Transgender, intersex, nonbinary, genderqueer, or [[lesboy]] identities
    * Transgender, intersex identities, nonbinary and genderqueer identities, xenogenders, neurogenders, aesthetigenders, etc. or [[lesboy]] identities
    * Gender non-conforming nonbinary folks, [[Drag Performers|drag artists]] (queens, kings, monarchs/queers, things), or believe that only men should do drag
    * Gender non-conforming nonbinary folks, [[Drag Performers|drag artists]] (queens, kings, monarchs/queers, things), or believe that only men should do drag
    * Polyamorous, ambiamorous, queerplatonic/alterous relationships, or any other non-monogamous relationship identities
    * Polyamorous, ambiamorous, queerplatonic/alterous relationships, or any other non-monogamous relationship identities
    * [[Microlabel|Microlabels]] or the use of multiple, or lack of, labels
    * [[Microlabel|Microlabels]] or the use of multiple, or lack of, labels
    * Xenogenders, neurogenders, aesthetigenders, etc.
    * Neopronouns, xenopronouns, using no pronouns, etc.
    * Neopronouns, xenopronouns, using no pronouns, etc.
    * LGBTQ+ folks who are straight-passing, monogamous-passing, masculine men(-aligned) who are LGBTQ+, feminine women(-aligned) who are LGBTQ+, etc.
    * LGBTQ+ folks who are straight-passing, monogamous-passing, masculine men(-aligned) who are LGBTQ+, feminine women(-aligned) who are LGBTQ+, etc.
    * AAVE words (African American Vernacular English), or using them if you're racist or ignorant to black culture and issues
    * Climate change or global warming
    * Climate change or global warming
    * Those into anime, kpop, jpop, etc., especially hating on groups like BTS and Vocaloid for no reason
    * Those into anime, kpop, jpop, etc., especially hating on groups like BTS and Vocaloid for no reason
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    * Cops at pride (looking at you, NYC staff /neg)
    * Cops at pride (looking at you, NYC staff /neg)
    * Age regressors and/or species regressors, littlespace
    * Age regressors and/or species regressors, littlespace
    * Furries, or believe that they are zoophiles
    * Furries
    * Artists, entrepreneurs, etc, or believe that they are not real jobs or should get "real" jobs
    * Alterhumans/otherkin/etc identities
    * Alterhumans/otherkin/etc identities
    * Systems/plurals/medians, endogenic systems, or treat members/headmates/alters, or even fictives, factives, or introjects like they are not real individuals
    * Systems/plurals/medians, endogenic systems, or treat members/headmates/alters, or even fictives, factives, or introjects like they are not real individuals
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    === If you support or are a part of: ===
    === If you support or are a part of: ===
    * Exclusionary groups (ex: TERFS/Radfems, SWERFS, transmedicalists, truscum, "battle axe bi", "longsword lesbian", sysmeds, etc.)
    * Exclusionary groups (ex: TERFS/Radfems, SWERFS, transmedicalists, truscum, "battle axe bi", "longsword lesbian", pluralphobe, sysmeds, etc.)
    * Believing that certain non-harmful LGBTQ+ terms are "weird", "an excuse", "fake", or "looking for attention" (ex: believing that autosexual/autoromantic is narcissism)
    * Believing that certain non-harmful LGBTQ+ terms are "weird", "an excuse", "fake", or "looking for attention" (ex: believing that autosexual/autoromantic is narcissism)
    * Not believing or gatekeeping non-harmful users of harmful originated terms or terms that were not supposed to be problematic ('''[[Queer|queer]]''' as a reclaimed term, an '''anime/[[Animatesexual|animatesexual]]''' who is genuinely ace-spec and attracted to anime characters, etc.) Similarly, calling them homophobic, racist, sexist, intersexist, etc. when there is no proof, or using reclaimed slurs that you do not have to right to use.
    * Not believing or gatekeeping non-harmful users of harmful originated terms or terms that were not supposed to be problematic ('''[[Queer|queer]]''' as a reclaimed term, an '''anime/[[Animatesexual|animatesexual]]''' who is genuinely ace-spec and attracted to anime characters, etc.) Similarly, calling them homophobic, racist, sexist, intersexist, etc. when there is no proof, or using reclaimed slurs that you do not have to right to use.
    * Purposefully misgendering or deadnaming someone, ''even'' when they are problematic or make you upset (it's so childish and disappointing /vneg)
    * Purposefully misgendering or deadnaming someone, ''even'' when they are problematic or make you upset (it's so childish and disappointing /vneg)
    * Fetishizing folks because of their race, ethnicity, being transgender, or sex characteristics
    * Fetishizing folks because of their race, ethnicity, being transgender, or intersex characteristics
    * Fatophobia/fat shaming, or any other kind of body shaming
    * Fatophobia/fat shaming, or any other kind of body shaming
    * Donald Trump and/or his ideologies or any other far-right ideologies
    * Donald Trump and/or his ideologies or any other far-right or far-conservative ideologies
    * Shane Dawson, Snowy Joe, Keemstar, Sia, or anyone similar (the “a part of” doesn’t count here because you can still enjoy their stuff while not supporting them /g)
    * Shane Dawson, Snowy Joe, Keemstar, Sia, or anyone similar (the “a part of” doesn’t count here because you can still enjoy their stuff while not supporting them /g)
    * Anti-feminism, sexism, cissexism, catcalling, anti-abortion, slut-shaming, touching without their permission, etc.
    * Anti-feminism, sexism, cissexism, catcalling, anti-abortion, slut-shaming, touching without their permission, etc.
    * Use the term "snowfl/ke (a)" to describe someone negatively
    * Tradwives who believes that every woman(-aligned) should also be one and submit to their partners
    * Tradwives who believes that every woman(-aligned) should also be one and submit to their partners
    * “Feminism" while getting angry/mock/disliking women(-aligned) who like doing things deemed as feminine
    * “Feminism" while getting angry/mock/disliking women(-aligned) who like doing things deemed as feminine
    * Extreme anti-shippers or extreme pro-shippers
    * Extreme anti-shippers or extreme pro-shippers, or just gatekeeping ships in general
    * Believing that ''all'' representation doesn’t matter at all in fiction
    * Believing that ''all'' representation doesn’t matter at all in fiction
    * Racism, xenophobia towards any race, using racial slurs against others, comparing a race to the virus, etc.
    * Racism, xenophobia towards any race, using racial slurs against others, comparing a race to the virus, etc.
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    * Autism being seen as a disorder, disability, or disease, or caused by vaccines
    * Autism being seen as a disorder, disability, or disease, or caused by vaccines
    * Blaming those with swear words or other offensive gestures as tics for having those tics, or assuming that offensive things said by an individual with tics are an accurate reflection of themself/true opinions.
    * Blaming those with swear words or other offensive gestures as tics for having those tics, or assuming that offensive things said by an individual with tics are an accurate reflection of themself/true opinions.
    * Pretending to have any neurodivergencey for attention/money
    * Pretending to have any neurodivergencey or disability for attention/money
    * Believing that suicide, or getting help is selfish, or that suicidal folks are just attention-seeking (stay the f**k away if this is you /vsrs)
    * Believing that suicide, or getting help is selfish, or that suicidal folks are just attention-seeking (stay the f**k away if this is you /vsrs)
    * Hating on ''all'' white folks, cishets, singlets, abled, and/or neurotypicals (please '''stop''' /vsrs /vu)
    * Hating on ''all'' white folks, cishets, singlets, abled, and/or neurotypicals (please '''stop''' /vsrs /vu)
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    * Kinkshaming or telling those that it's "cancerous" because of their kinks/fetishes/coping mechanisms
    * Kinkshaming or telling those that it's "cancerous" because of their kinks/fetishes/coping mechanisms
    * Participating in MAP, pedophilic, zoophilic, "pedosexual", etc. behaviors on ''real'' children, animals, etc. (please stop and ''seek help'' /vsrs).
    * Participating in MAP, pedophilic, zoophilic, "pedosexual", etc. behaviors on ''real'' children, animals, etc. (please stop and ''seek help'' /vsrs).
    Having paraphilic disorders and using other coping strategies ''doesn't'' count, and for those of you who would go around and shame/give threats/false report them because of their coping mechanisms such as drawings, or call others including me a pedo, zoophile, or whatever other term for understanding paraphilic disorders and their coping mechanisms, you are disgusting and stay the f**k away from us.
    PSA: Having paraphilic disorders and using other coping strategies ''doesn't'' count, and for those of you who would go around and shame/give threats/false report them because of their coping mechanisms such as drawings, or call others including me a pedo, zoophile, or whatever other term for understanding paraphilic disorders and their coping mechanisms, you are terrible and disgusting and stay the f**k away from us.


    You don't have to ''like'' their fetishist drawings (I don't, I'm not a fan, and plus it's illegal here in the US), but unless they're doing it in '''reality''', just leave them alone, period. /vsrs /vu
    You don't have to ''like'' their fetishist drawings (I don't, I'm not a fan, and plus it's illegal here in the US), but unless they're doing it in '''reality''', just leave them alone, period. /vsrs /vu
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    * Shaming others for not liking horror or for looking scary, such as on Halloween
    * Shaming others for not liking horror or for looking scary, such as on Halloween
    * "Why watch it if you can just play it?" (just don't. /srs)
    * "Why watch it if you can just play it?" (just don't. /srs)
    * '''Honestly if you’re just mean, ignorant, or snobby in general'''
    * Honestly if you’re just mean, ignorant, or snobby in general
    * '''Excusing or supporting anything on this list. And yes, calling me the "L slur” behind my back or making sh*t-posts, including of how long this DNI list is, counts.'''
    * And lastly, '''excusing or supporting anything on this list. And yes, calling me the "L slur” behind my back or making sh*t-posts, including of how long this DNI list is, counts.'''


    == Another question ==
    == Another question ==

    Revision as of 02:48, 13 May 2022

    Note: Please refer to our DNI list at the bottom and do not interact if you fall under our list bulletpoints.

    Sexuality

    Is there a term for experiencing different sexualities for different genders at the same time? /genq

    -Danni (he/they+ neos) Systeroamia (talk) 02:09, March 16, 2022 (UTC)

    If I'm understanding the question, novosexual seems to fit. Oculusleviathan (talk) 16:28, April 19, 2022 (UTC)

    Coining Idiosexual and Idioromantic

    Idiosexual is a term for multigender individuals who experience different sexual attractions for each gender or each category of genders that they experience at the same time. This can also include different m-spec, ace-spec, fluid, and/or flux identities as well. (meee)


    Idioromantic is a term for multigender individuals who experience different romantic attractions for each gender or each category of genders that they experience at the same time. This can also include different m-spec, aro-spec, fluid, and/or flux identities as well.

    Etymology

    The prefix idio is a Latin word meaning “own, personal, distinct”.


    (unfortunately, I can't seem to post flags on here so I'll have to do it through the new pages) Systeroamia (talk) 19:41, March 22, 2022 (UTC)

    - Danni (he/they+ neos) Systeroamia (talk) 22:03, March 22, 2022 (UTC)

    Question for Mods

    Are we allowed to make edits on the FAQ page?

    I'm thinking of changing the usage of people to individuals since individuals is more accepted and inclusive to use for everyone especially for alterhumans and otherkin like me. please don't be mad

    /genq /npa /nm

    - Danni (he/they+ neos) Systeroamia (talk) 22:43, March 23, 2022 (UTC)

    That is fine.

    Jeb_CC, Co-Bureaucrat | (xe/xem/xir) (talk) 00:41, March 25, 2022 (UTC)


    Mod Notice: Hey Systeroamia, I've moved your DNI to this page. Your creation of https://lgbta.miraheze.org/wiki/Our_DNI_List is not suitable for its own wiki article, and more suitable for your own user page. I have hence deleted the page. Jeb_CC, Co-Bureaucrat | (xe/xem/xir) (talk) 00:41, March 25, 2022 (UTC)

    I understand, and thanks /g /npa
    - Danni (he/they+ neos) Systeroamia (talk) 07:09, March 25, 2022 (UTC)

    Our DNI List

    TW For a few swears and mentions of the following: ab//e, queerphobia, transphobia, gatekeeping, Trump, fetishization, paraphilia, p/dophilia (e), ableism, racism, climate change, “cringe”, food, animals, d//th threats (ea), s//c/de (ui, i), problematic figures, reclaimed identities, unreclaimed slur (not explicitly said)

    CW For bold text


    I know that this list is long because it's in two parts, so I apologize in advance. However, I think that it is proper for us to put this down just to be safe and clear and after leaving the discussion pages. If any of the situations below describe you, then do not interact. /gen /srs - Danni (he/they+ neos) - Systeroamia

    If you mock, don’t believe, or hate on:

    • Any LGBTQ+ sexualities, including a-spec identities, or instead believe in harmful stereotypes (ex: all gay men are feminine, trans women are just cis men trying to attack women, nonbinary individuals are all androgynous, etc.)
    • Transgender, intersex identities, nonbinary and genderqueer identities, xenogenders, neurogenders, aesthetigenders, etc. or lesboy identities
    • Gender non-conforming nonbinary folks, drag artists (queens, kings, monarchs/queers, things), or believe that only men should do drag
    • Polyamorous, ambiamorous, queerplatonic/alterous relationships, or any other non-monogamous relationship identities
    • Microlabels or the use of multiple, or lack of, labels
    • Neopronouns, xenopronouns, using no pronouns, etc.
    • LGBTQ+ folks who are straight-passing, monogamous-passing, masculine men(-aligned) who are LGBTQ+, feminine women(-aligned) who are LGBTQ+, etc.
    • AAVE words (African American Vernacular English), or using them if you're racist or ignorant to black culture and issues
    • Climate change or global warming
    • Those into anime, kpop, jpop, etc., especially hating on groups like BTS and Vocaloid for no reason
    • Religious folks, agnostic folks, or atheists (the “don’t believe” part doesn’t count here as anyone can have different beliefs /nm)
    • Pacifism, anarcho-pacifism, etc. (the “don’t believe” part doesn’t count here either, just don’t be a jerk about it /nm)
    • Kink at pride (not to be confused with sex and nudity /srs)
    • Cops at pride (looking at you, NYC staff /neg)
    • Age regressors and/or species regressors, littlespace
    • Furries, or believe that they are zoophiles
    • Artists, entrepreneurs, etc, or believe that they are not real jobs or should get "real" jobs
    • Alterhumans/otherkin/etc identities
    • Systems/plurals/medians, endogenic systems, or treat members/headmates/alters, or even fictives, factives, or introjects like they are not real individuals
    • Vaccines or masks, therapy, mental health, basically anti-primitivism
    • All pedophiles (please say child molesters instead, pedophile is not the right word you’re thinking of /nm)
    • NSFW ageplay (it’s not child molesting if they’re consenting adults /vsrs)
    • Certain triggers or putting down trigger warnings or tone tags, or lacking/refusing to put them overall
    • Those who don’t like or use social media for many reasons (ex: to avoid drama)
    • Vegans or vegetarians (you don’t have to be either of them)
    • School drop outs
    • Geminis, Scorpios, or any other zodiac sign and think that they’re all toxic, liars, or cheaters (we’re not all the f**king same, please stop /vsrs /vu)
    • Honestly, the idea of DNI lists in general

    If you support or are a part of:

    • Exclusionary groups (ex: TERFS/Radfems, SWERFS, transmedicalists, truscum, "battle axe bi", "longsword lesbian", pluralphobe, sysmeds, etc.)
    • Believing that certain non-harmful LGBTQ+ terms are "weird", "an excuse", "fake", or "looking for attention" (ex: believing that autosexual/autoromantic is narcissism)
    • Not believing or gatekeeping non-harmful users of harmful originated terms or terms that were not supposed to be problematic (queer as a reclaimed term, an anime/animatesexual who is genuinely ace-spec and attracted to anime characters, etc.) Similarly, calling them homophobic, racist, sexist, intersexist, etc. when there is no proof, or using reclaimed slurs that you do not have to right to use.
    • Purposefully misgendering or deadnaming someone, even when they are problematic or make you upset (it's so childish and disappointing /vneg)
    • Fetishizing folks because of their race, ethnicity, being transgender, or intersex characteristics
    • Fatophobia/fat shaming, or any other kind of body shaming
    • Donald Trump and/or his ideologies or any other far-right or far-conservative ideologies
    • Shane Dawson, Snowy Joe, Keemstar, Sia, or anyone similar (the “a part of” doesn’t count here because you can still enjoy their stuff while not supporting them /g)
    • Anti-feminism, sexism, cissexism, catcalling, anti-abortion, slut-shaming, touching without their permission, etc.
    • Use the term "snowfl/ke (a)" to describe someone negatively
    • Tradwives who believes that every woman(-aligned) should also be one and submit to their partners
    • “Feminism" while getting angry/mock/disliking women(-aligned) who like doing things deemed as feminine
    • Extreme anti-shippers or extreme pro-shippers, or just gatekeeping ships in general
    • Believing that all representation doesn’t matter at all in fiction
    • Racism, xenophobia towards any race, using racial slurs against others, comparing a race to the virus, etc.
    • “All Lives Matter”, "White Lives Matter", and/or "Blue Lives Matter" instead of “Black Lives Matter”
    • Ableism towards any mental illnesses/disorders/disabilities, thinking they need a cure, faking it, exaggerating, thinking they need a professional diagnosis, etc. Paraphilic disorders also count because they can’t control how they feel
    • Seeing paraphilic disorders as LGBTQ+
    • Shaming picky eaters, eating disorders, etc.
    • Autism being seen as a disorder, disability, or disease, or caused by vaccines
    • Blaming those with swear words or other offensive gestures as tics for having those tics, or assuming that offensive things said by an individual with tics are an accurate reflection of themself/true opinions.
    • Pretending to have any neurodivergencey or disability for attention/money
    • Believing that suicide, or getting help is selfish, or that suicidal folks are just attention-seeking (stay the f**k away if this is you /vsrs)
    • Hating on all white folks, cishets, singlets, abled, and/or neurotypicals (please stop /vsrs /vu)
    • “Cringe culture”, watch or make "cringe" or "unfunny" videos/compilations for fun, or use the word “cringe” to describe others a lot
    • Extreme music-purists (hating on those who use autotune, accusing many singers for lip-singing, etc.)
    • Domestic abuse, animal abuse, etc. (stay the f**k away and find help /vsrs)
    • Giving death threats, suicide-baiting, or otherwise cyberbullying towards anyone, even to those who are problematic or may seem “problematic” but really aren't (Seriously. Stop. /vsrs /vneg)
    • Kinkshaming or telling those that it's "cancerous" because of their kinks/fetishes/coping mechanisms
    • Participating in MAP, pedophilic, zoophilic, "pedosexual", etc. behaviors on real children, animals, etc. (please stop and seek help /vsrs).

    PSA: Having paraphilic disorders and using other coping strategies doesn't count, and for those of you who would go around and shame/give threats/false report them because of their coping mechanisms such as drawings, or call others including me a pedo, zoophile, or whatever other term for understanding paraphilic disorders and their coping mechanisms, you are terrible and disgusting and stay the f**k away from us.

    You don't have to like their fetishist drawings (I don't, I'm not a fan, and plus it's illegal here in the US), but unless they're doing it in reality, just leave them alone, period. /vsrs /vu

    • Making anything saying if an identity is valid or about deleting a term in the beware section (it’s there for a reason /lu)
    • Not giving anyone who accidentally came off as problematic and genuinely didn’t mean to a chance (instantly DNIing them, refusing to forgive them, etc.)
    • Arguing over trivial things too seriously (in a non-light-hearted way) (ex: saying to a cat lover “dogs are so much better, get a dog, you’re a loser if you don’t like dogs”. And yes, taking pineapple on pizza seriously also counts)
    • Extreme grammar policing, sentence policing, things that nobody asked for non-lightheartedly (paragraphs don’t count. Editing pages or correcting someone for using outdated terminology that is or can be potentially harmful also don’t count)
    • Accusing every single company or celebrity you run into for pink capitalism, even if they are actually really supportive (please stop, it's really annoying and unfair /vsrs /neg)
    • Shaming others for not going by “person” and instead “individual”, “folk”, etc.
    • Shaming others for not liking horror or for looking scary, such as on Halloween
    • "Why watch it if you can just play it?" (just don't. /srs)
    • Honestly if you’re just mean, ignorant, or snobby in general
    • And lastly, excusing or supporting anything on this list. And yes, calling me the "L slur” behind my back or making sh*t-posts, including of how long this DNI list is, counts.

    Another question

    Idk, I feel like I need to ask permission for this. For blogs such as System, Regression, and Part 1, 2, and 3 of finding your orientation.. is it okay to edit those? I'm sorry, I'm nervous because of the fact that it's under Blog Posts and I felt like I needed to ask permission. /genq

    -Danni (he/they +neos) Systeroamia (talk) (4/23/22 - 13:37 CST) (I don't know what I did to make the time not work anymore, so sorry

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